37. Social Work Update: Career, Money, & SW2W

Taylor Gilbert (00:00)
Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Social Work to Wealth podcast. I'm Taylor here with Faith and today we are just having fun, just chatting about our lives, what's going on with our money, Social Work to Wealth. I feel like we, yeah, just Faith and I just haven't really like...
had a solo episode in a while. So we were just like, you know, let's just pop in and share what's going on with us and our careers and updates and all of that. So.
Faith Voss (00:30)
Yeah, I'm super excited for this episode. It's not like often that you and I get to just have an episode by ourselves and get to talk about our lives and our career. And I know people are curious where you're at, so I'm excited. Well, we'll see. No, but like, seriously, it's, it's nice to just like do a little check-in, you know? Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (00:39)
I know.
And you. ⁓
Yeah, totally. I got
this. What's so funny, I think. I don't know. I feel like I overthink podcasting sometimes. But when I realized like me introducing the episode, like, what are we going to talk about? And people know what we're going to talk about because it's they there's a podcast title. There's a description. So anyways, obviously, you know, the listener, like, you know what you're about to get out of this, but.
Faith Voss (01:11)
I know.
Taylor Gilbert (01:20)
I digress. Yeah, I'm calling it social work update because I stole this from ⁓ one of my TikTok friends, Jakori and he just like will go on TikTok and just have a video and be like, social work update, this is what's going on in my life and it's just so fun. And I was like, you know what? That would be so fun for Faith and I to do. ⁓
Faith Voss (01:41)
I love that. I know.
Taylor Gilbert (01:45)
So we're chat career, social work to wealth and end with our moaning moment as usual. So you wanna go first? Okay, I'll go first, I'll go first.
Faith Voss (01:51)
as you yes do you want to start or do I don't know who wants to start okay cool
no Taylor where where are you at yeah mm-hmm ⁓ another update that I don't know about is this fresh off the press dude tell me
Taylor Gilbert (02:01)
⁓ man, where am I? Where am I at now? I do have an update for you. This is fresh off the press. ⁓
It's like not really that exciting, but I think so. Let me back up. I know, I know, I know. It's not exciting. ⁓ So I'm for everyone who doesn't know.
Faith Voss (02:18)
you're really setting this up well. It's not that exciting.
Taylor Gilbert (02:27)
I'm trying to transition into personal finance. I'm trying to into finance. Financial planning is what I meant. I'm trying to transition into financial planning. And in the last couple, what I think it's been like maybe two months now, I started applying, I think, at the end of February. And so I've been trying to get an associate advisor position or what other, you know, some people might call a para planner. So very similar to a paralegal.
where I would be supporting the lead financial planner with all the things. And so I've been applying to some associate advisor roles and then also client services roles. It's not exactly what I want to do specifically, but these roles are... ⁓
you know, kind of on the front end of when, you know, a client wants to work with a financial planner, I'd be supporting them with like onboarding paperwork, like operations, all of that stuff. And so it's kind of just like a way for me to like get my foot in the door. But ⁓ so that's a little bit of background. I've been applying to some jobs because my job right now.
I'm a medical social worker. I've been contracting with my previous employer, the Oregon Procurement Organization. So I'm kind of like a travel social worker right now. So since...
Faith Voss (03:46)
Hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (03:47)
last what I transitioned last last June I was like a I've been working with them for four years now but last June I moved and so I became a traveler so I just like fly to Portland once a once a month work some shifts and then I go home it's very it's very nice it's the best I get to get to make my schedule but
Faith Voss (04:02)
Mm-hmm. It is nice. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (04:09)
So I was getting shifts until December 20, 25, and then January is like, I'm not getting shifts. February, I wasn't going to get shifts. And then someone like they needed me to cover some stuff. So I actually did work in February, but then March, I didn't get shifts. April, nothing. And so I'm like, OK, like I need to figure something out, you know, so that's that's why I was started applying to some places, but.
Faith Voss (04:15)
Hmm.
Yeah.
Really? Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (04:39)
I've gotten, I've had like two serious interviews. One of them, I remember I told you, like I didn't get that role. That was a client services role. It was so cool. They were like based out of Massachusetts and ⁓ just like really progressive. And I felt like it was a really nice blend between like financial planning and social work. Like they really just.
Faith Voss (04:43)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.
It was cool. It was a cool roll. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (05:05)
I don't know. just, like on their website, for example, you know, they're like, we're LGBTQ, you know, friendly firm. ⁓ you know, they would give us, what, what do they call them? Like advocacy days or something like that. I can't remember exactly the, the word that they use where it was like, if you want to go, if you need to go and vote or you want to go to like a rally or like go to a town hall or something, like we'll pay for you to go because it's important for us for you to like,
Faith Voss (05:12)
Yeah.
⁓ that's right. Yeah.
It's so cool.
Taylor Gilbert (05:36)
be involved in your community. So I feel like those two things gives you a good picture of the type of people they are. So I'm like, my gosh, financial planning in my social work values is just totally aligned. So I feel like it's been really inspiring text or just encouraging that.
Faith Voss (05:41)
Yeah.
you
Mm-hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (05:52)
there are actually like financial planning firms out there that are like that, you know, because I think when people think financial planning is just like so dull, you know, white bros and and so.
Faith Voss (05:59)
Yeah, they don't think about that. Yeah. They don't think about that. Yeah. Well, they definitely don't think social
work either, right? They don't think social work either. And I think it's so cool that you're like, I'm going to find, I want to find this balance.
Taylor Gilbert (06:15)
I want to find this balance and like find
a culture and an organization that is aligned with me like in terms of my values because I'm not desperate to get a job. you know, I mean, we have some, I'm not desperate like yet, but like we have some savings. We have some savings. So it's like, we've been able to live off that. But ⁓ yeah, it's been.
Faith Voss (06:26)
Right.
Yeah. So you had more interviews
though? You had it. Okay.
Taylor Gilbert (06:43)
So I
had applied to another client services role. ⁓
and they switched the, they like changed the job. They're like, we're actually changing it to this. And then they switched it back. So anyways, I did a second interview with them and it was actually a, I did it last week and it was, it was a task based interview. Like I've never done this before because all the jobs I've ever applied for are mostly social work or like customer service, you know? So it was client operations role. So I had to like, they gave me three,
Faith Voss (07:10)
Right.
What did that... What did that look like?
Taylor Gilbert (07:18)
exercises, one of them it was like, okay, it was a scenario, know, say you come in at 9am, ⁓ Monday morning, and you have all these tasks. And we want you to prioritize them and kind of explain essentially why you prioritize them in that way. And so then I had a
Faith Voss (07:20)
Okay.
Hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (07:43)
Like I prioritized them and I had create a, I had to record a video of myself explaining why I did the way I, like what I decided. So there were three exercises and I had to create three videos of me. So then another one was about, they had like these two Excel documents and I had to figure out like there was account numbers in both of them and account balances. Like one was an investment balance, one was a bank account balance and I had to figure out like,
Faith Voss (07:51)
Whoa.
Mm-hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (08:13)
What accounts, what account numbers show in both in both sheets? What account numbers show in only like one sheet? What balances are off like? So I had to like reconcile these two Excel documents and then I had to create a video explaining that and then the Excel document. ⁓ So. It is fascinating. Yeah, I have like I've never done this. I feel like it's always tell me about a time when you handled a crisis and what?
Faith Voss (08:22)
Wow.
That's... fascinating. Huh.
client who
was pissed at their mom. No, you're like, okay, let me tell you. Yeah. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (08:42)
yeah, I got those in the role of X. ⁓
So anyways. Honestly, I was like, this is my shit, like this is.
Faith Voss (08:53)
How did you feel doing that? Like, how did you feel?
Y'all if you only knew I'm gonna crush this yeah, right
Taylor Gilbert (09:04)
I'm like, this is, I
don't know. just, feel like as I've gotten older, it's just like, I love this operation stuff. I love the really detail. I mean, it's, I want to be a financial planner. Like those are the kinds of, like, I just enjoy being in spreadsheets and like making projections and like doing all that like stuff, you know?
Faith Voss (09:10)
Yeah.
Yeah. I feel
like since we've started the podcast, I've really seen that side of you come out. You're like, we'll be talking about ideas and you're like, Ooh, okay. I just sent you an updated task list with like all of the different things we're to do first. And then we're going to do this and we're doing that. I'm like, yes, I'm not that way. So this is amazing, but I feel like I've seen that side of you come out. It's awesome. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (09:34)
Yes, yes, yes. That's so funny. Yeah, so
I feel like both of these roles were client services roles and
Faith Voss (09:49)
Hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (09:51)
I'm very clear with them. I'm very upfront with them in the interview. Like this is this is kind of my way of just like getting my foot in the door. But like I want to be an associate advisor, you know. And so like, is there room to grow? Is there a path here? One person said no. So, yeah, the first people that were in Boston, they were just like, you have like you're amazing. You're like, but we just we're moving in a different direction.
Faith Voss (10:04)
Mm-hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (10:19)
And they connected me with some people because they were like, you're amazing. So we still want to kind of help you like in this, you know. So that was really nice. And this last person. So. I got my second denial, the one where I had to do the tasks on Saturday. And I was like, OK.
Faith Voss (10:28)
That's super nice.
Okay.
Taylor Gilbert (10:43)
What am I going to do? Like, you know, and I've also been toying with, I've been toying with like...
Faith Voss (10:44)
Hmm.
That's hard.
Taylor Gilbert (10:53)
Do I just try to ramp up social work to wealth? Do I do just financial coaching? I could just like launch a financial coaching business, you know, and do my own thing. But I've been really wanting to just like get ⁓ a job at one of these firms just so can kind of see the behind the scenes of stuff and just like get experience and you know, and so I've been really kind of like, so over the weekend I was like, okay, if I don't get this job.
Faith Voss (10:56)
Mm-hmm.
Right, right, right.
Mm-hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (11:20)
I
think I'm gonna launch like, I'm do some sort of like financial coaching. So Saturday got the, yeah, so Saturday got the denial. And then I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it. Maybe this is just the sign of no, no. then, then Monday. What's happening, right?
Faith Voss (11:26)
Cool.
You're, you're going to do financial coaching. Wait. So wait, what, what's happening? Yeah. What?
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (11:46)
So
then Monday comes around 10 a.m. One of my managers at my organ procurement job is like, hey, can you talk? And I'm like, oh, what do you want to talk about? He's like, so, he's like, we need someone to cover these couple days in April, and we need someone to cover these couple days in May, are you available? And I'm like, yes, I am.
Faith Voss (11:50)
Okay. Okay.
Like, ooh, okay, sure.
Mmm. Mm-hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (12:13)
Yes, I am available.
So I it's good. It's good. mean, I had talked to Brett about it. You know, I said if I don't get these jobs in finance, what I will try to do is like our expenses are really not high. Like you guys, our rent is $1800. It's it's pretty I feel like it's pretty low. And so. Totally.
Faith Voss (12:17)
That's kind of how do feel about that? Yeah. Good.
Mmm.
Especially for like the state you live in and kind of
yeah, yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (12:42)
So
him and I had decided I had agreed on like, if I don't get this job, if I don't get these finance jobs, what I'm going to do is just try to make money through Social Work to Wealth and, you know, try to make enough for three to four months of our rent. Like just me, I'm paying the rent three or four months of it just so that there's not a ton of pressure for me to make a lot of money. But if I can cover the rent, that's great. And so I was like, OK, if I can make like, you know, like fifty five hundred, that would be, you know, I could finish. I could
Faith Voss (12:56)
Mm-hmm.
Hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (13:12)
continue with school. Guys, I'm in school for financial planning. I, you know, I have things that I want to do. And so I want to finish. So getting these shifts, I'm going to make seventy four hundred dollars in six days with like, it's huge.
Faith Voss (13:14)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Awesome. Like that's huge. Yeah. And this is why that's so
cool. That gig that you have, like where you can travel and you're a travel social worker, but it also is, you know, it's not always consistent. And so there's like the pros and cons to it, that, know, you're kind of managing at the same time, you know,
Taylor Gilbert (13:40)
Yeah.
Right.
it's just in the yeah, the yeah, the inconsistency is big. like, thankfully, we do have some savings. But yeah, I'm like, OK, that that'll help. That'll push me like that'll give me a little bit more time, you know, to continue with. And what social work to wealth like Brett was saying, you know, he's like, I'm just worried about you getting like a full time job because I was starting I was wanting to do part time only. But then I was like, well, I can maybe do a full time.
Faith Voss (13:52)
inconsistency, yeah.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (14:17)
position depending on the schedule if it's flexible and he's like I'm just really worried about you doing like you know full-time thing because social work to wealth is is popping off like he's like I just you know he's so sweet so he's not he's not
Faith Voss (14:23)
Aww. It's poppin' off!
Yeah, he is sweet.
But he's not wrong. He's not wrong. Like I think, I
think social work to wealth takes up a lot of your time and effort and you put a ton of work into it and you are really passionate about it and driven. And I think, you know, it, it is something that's been cool to see grow and get bigger. when we started the podcast, mean, social work to wealth existed before the podcast, right? Like this is Taylor's business and
Taylor Gilbert (14:58)
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (15:01)
Then when we started the podcast, it was just kind of like this fun thing that we wanted to do and exciting and new and different. And it's become a little bit more than that, right? It's just, it's a lot more than that. And so, which I think we should get into that at some point today. But, ⁓ but so right now you're kind of feeling like in terms of your career, still pursuing financial stuff, still kind of wanting to go that financial planning route. Definitely you're in school.
Taylor Gilbert (15:06)
Mm-hmm.
It's become a lot more than that.
Yes.
100%. Yep.
Faith Voss (15:29)
Kinda looking for the jobs, trying to see what's out there, but then also still gonna do the travel social work organ. Yeah, yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (15:35)
I gotta do the travel thing for now. It's
gonna pay the bills, gonna help me get to, it's gonna help me continue to move forward in the way I want to. It's just, yeah, ⁓ I'm ready to be done with that work. It's a lot, it's been...
Faith Voss (15:40)
you
Yeah.
It is a lot.
How many years now? Four, four and a half, five? four.
Taylor Gilbert (15:53)
It's been four years. It's been four years. Yeah.
Yeah, it's just it's so emotional and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into all the details now, but I feel like I feel like when I leave we can have a real we can have a real intense conversation about like why it was just getting really tough for me at the end. And.
Faith Voss (16:09)
Hmm.
Yeah. And if people want to know
more about that specifically, like you just released an episode about, ⁓ transplant social work. So it's similar. Yeah. Yeah. Doreen Sam. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (16:22)
Transplant social work. Yeah, yeah. We talk about it at the end, yeah, with Dora. ⁓
But yeah, I'm just like, I'm ready to just talk with people about their money and for people to not be, like I'm really ready for my work to not be like life and death right now. You know what I mean? Like it's literally life and death. Like every time I'm talking to someone, they are in, they're experiencing the worst day of their lives or one of the worst days. And I'm just like, I'm...
Faith Voss (16:35)
Yeah.
I think that's fair.
Taylor Gilbert (16:52)
I'm ready for this to be, to move on. So anyways, I'm still in it, moving forward. I'm not applying to any new jobs. ⁓ I did apply to that practicum specialist job. I haven't heard back yet. I haven't heard back yet. I apply.
Faith Voss (16:56)
Cool. Still in it.
Okay.
You did. Okay. Okay. That's new and like kind of like a, think you'd be great at it
though.
Taylor Gilbert (17:12)
I think it was Rutgers School of Social Work was like, we're hiring a practicum specialist, you know, like 25 hours a week. so, you know, helping students like get connected with practicums. And I'm like, that sounds kind of fun. It's not really financial planning, but that sounds cool. So I did apply to that. I haven't heard back, but we'll see. So, okay. I feel like that's enough about me.
Faith Voss (17:27)
that.
Yeah. We'll see. Yeah. Hmm. Okay.
You're like, I'm done. I mean, it's just good for, know, to know like what's going on and how things are progressing in your career. And we talk about it. We talk about everybody else's careers, bring people on to interview them. And it's just cool to like hear your, know, a little bit about what you got going on, you know?
Taylor Gilbert (17:51)
Yeah.
Yep, yep. And we're talking about social media. Okay, so what's going on with therapist faith?
Faith Voss (17:59)
And we're definitely going to talk about social work too well. We're definitely going to talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. dude.
Therapist faith. So, I just hit two years of having my own private practice in Colorado, which is great. Yeah. Yeah. So, well, I guess a little over two years now. So it was 2024. ⁓ I started it and it's going really well. It's going super well. I feel like.
Taylor Gilbert (18:16)
Dude, congrats!
Faith Voss (18:27)
I was a little nervous about the transition back after having my daughter. ⁓ So it's been nice to be fully sore. mean, you know this Taylor, I'm like, I had to take another day off. I didn't take another day off because know, babies get sick all the time and all sorts of things with daycare. But I feel like it's been nice the last, I think three months finally getting my caseload full, finally feeling a rhythm, a new routine and like consistency with that. ⁓
Taylor Gilbert (18:50)
Nice.
Faith Voss (18:54)
And that's been really good. That's been really good. And I feel really relieved that my private practice didn't just fall apart. And I could enter back into it after having a kid. So that feels really good. And I'm really trying to think of other ways I can, I think, expand my income.
Taylor Gilbert (19:03)
Just flop. Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (19:19)
not just through being with clients, you know, like trying to expand it and cause it, mean, for anybody who does therapy, you know, it's you get paid for the clients you see and that's when you can submit claims or, know, ⁓ what is that called? Like fee for service or what does that call? Like you're getting paid per hour. What is that called? I don't know the term. Yeah. So it's like you.
Taylor Gilbert (19:22)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah. Just I mean, just like I know what you're talking about. ⁓ I can't think of it.
Faith Voss (19:48)
Yeah, I kind of want variety in my job too. I just like variety and I don't want to just be doing the same thing over and over again. I've been doing this for like eight years now, so I'm kind of ready to do other things too. So the ideas I have are to offer supervision. I've taken like a supervision class ⁓ or course on that and ⁓ I'm still really nervous to do it just because of the liability.
Taylor Gilbert (19:52)
Really? Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (20:18)
peace and like, it's just taking somebody under your wing and worrying about like filling their caseload and making sure you're paying them and making sure that like they're having a good experience. And then you also want to make sure you have a good connection with them. ⁓
Taylor Gilbert (20:32)
So when you talk about supervision,
you're talking about this person would work in your practice. ⁓
Faith Voss (20:36)
clinical.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, I don't know. I feel like maybe I would start with just offering supervision and then down the road maybe I would expand it to be somebody in my practice. Maybe there's a way, and I'm researching it and exploring it now, but just being a clinical supervisor to feel really confident in that and then ⁓ expanding into.
Taylor Gilbert (20:54)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Faith Voss (21:08)
bringing somebody on and I just, have like this dream that if I were to do that, I would bring on a few, I even think it'd be cool to bring on grad students and have them be paid and then be able to, ⁓ offer them obviously clinical hours and then kind of keep them on after they graduate. And then they get their LCSW and then help them open their own private practice. Like that would be my dream is like, this is like your
Taylor Gilbert (21:20)
Mm-hmm.
Dude, that would be so cool.
Faith Voss (21:37)
internship pipeline to private practice. Not, then like you're on your own, like I'm not taking money. We're not doing splits. It's like, wouldn't that be, yeah, I just really feel like the day for me. And I know there's probably lots of opinions out there about this, but I just feel really passionate about people making a livable wage. And I think opening their own private practice and it's not that complicated. And I feel like we're going to move more towards.
Taylor Gilbert (21:39)
my gosh.
I just got chills. my god, that sounds so cool.
Faith Voss (22:07)
collective structure versus group practice structure where there's shared office space and it's more of a collective of therapists all having their own. Yeah, that's where I'm at now. Yeah. And I just, I've always been in that setting when I do private practice on my own, right? Like I think it's really important to be in community. ⁓ but it's also really nice when you're keeping everything you earn and there's no like splits going on. ⁓
Taylor Gilbert (22:11)
Mm-hmm.
Right, because that's what you work. That's what you're in right now, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm Yeah, I feel like Liz
Liz on our last episode talked about like, I have all the benefits of group practice, but none of like the BS of it because I because her and her best friend share an office. And so, ⁓ yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Dude, that sounds awesome. ⁓
Faith Voss (22:38)
She's, yeah.
Yes!
Yeah.
Yeah, so like my pipe, that's my, that's my pipe dream is like bringing on a few people,
even if they're in grad, grad school, kind of, I do ERP therapy. that's for treatment for OCD. So like, there's a huge need for that. So training them in that, and then helping them be OCD providers who potentially take insurance because OCD is, it's really hard to find a provider that takes insurance and it can be very expensive to get treatment for OCD.
Taylor Gilbert (23:16)
Mm.
Faith Voss (23:18)
like wildly expensive. And so I have a wait list. I have lots of people who want to work with me, but I don't have the capacity. So it's kind of like, scary to take that step because you're responsible for somebody's income. And I don't know if I want that burden right now or, you know, the liability of their ethical, like their clinical work. So that's one idea that I'm like considering. I
Taylor Gilbert (23:40)
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (23:46)
would love to do it through DU. So DU is Denver University. It's a private school here and they're very expensive, but like super expensive, like 90 grand a year for your social work masters, which I, which I'm like, I have my own feelings about that. But the one thing that is cool about them is, and Taylor, we've talked about this before, especially when we were talking with P4P, right? ⁓
Taylor Gilbert (23:59)
Excuse me?
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (24:15)
they're actually posting on their website how many students have gotten paid internships. So 18 % of social work graduate students have paid internships through to you. And they're really trying to get more of their interns paid, which I'm like, ⁓ this is totally what we love and believe in. And so they have this, like another goal of mine, I don't know when it would happen, but they have this, ⁓ you can apply to become what's called a community service.
Taylor Gilbert (24:23)
That's cool.
Ooh, I love this. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Faith Voss (24:45)
work-study employer. Have you heard of this? So basically, you would have to agree to pay 30 % of the grad student's wage. But then they can use grant money, government-assisted money that they've already received for work-study, to cover the other half of their income. So you're doing like a 30-70 split with the government. So
Taylor Gilbert (24:47)
No.
So you would have
an, this is for an internship, like they're doing therapy internship, practicum, whatever.
Faith Voss (25:11)
Yeah. So it's like,
there's different, yeah, it's like, there's different types of employers that would be able to be a community service work study employer and like social work, social services would be one of them. And I think, I don't know, I'd have to apply and see if I could get approved. But if I got approved, then a student who had work study could use 70 % of their work study and I would provide the 30%. So it would be like a 30, 70 split for me.
Taylor Gilbert (25:24)
⁓
and they're
getting their full-time wage. ⁓ That's so cool.
Faith Voss (25:40)
and they're getting 100 % of their work study. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like that's,
I would want to do that. I would love to do that. I think that'd be really cool. And it's interesting because as I've researched this, I've run against some interesting perspectives about it. Like some people are like, don't pay graduate students because like, yeah, yeah. And it's because.
Taylor Gilbert (26:02)
Huh?
Faith Voss (26:07)
I don't really understand why I'm still trying to understand why but one of the things I've heard is that it comes down to the school so the actual university some universities have a have a policy that they don't pay graduate students or they don't have through internships yeah that they can't get paid through internships because it's not it's not ⁓ fair for all like for some to be paid and some not to be paid and I just don't I just don't like come on
Taylor Gilbert (26:20)
that the graduates can't get paid. Is that what saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Dude, get outta here.
That's not how we get everyone paid. If you can't say no one can be paid, that's not how we move forward to everyone getting paid. I'm sorry, are you, what?
Faith Voss (26:42)
No, and I'm sure if graduate
students had the choice between no payment and the possibility of being paid, they'd be like, let's go with the possibility of that. Even if it's more competitive and I have to interview and I have to have my ducks in a row. ⁓ So DU obviously allows social work students to be paid, which I think is great. And they're tracking it.
Taylor Gilbert (26:53)
Let's go with the possibility. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
That is so fascinating. need to have whoever
is running that little program over there. We need to talk to them on the podcast.
Faith Voss (27:13)
I know,
I know and how they kind of figure that out and I, maybe it's more common than we know and I just didn't know about it, but so that's another goal of mine is to kind of figure out a way to get more ERP providers, private practice owners, paid interns and those are my thoughts on like how to maybe do that. But I haven't started any of it cause I'm scared.
Taylor Gilbert (27:18)
Yeah. Maybe.
That's cool.
You're in
the brainstorming phase. You're in the weighing all the liabilities and the pros and the cons. I feel like knowing you, you're probably going to need to sit on this for another year and then you'll be like,
Faith Voss (27:42)
Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, yeah. ⁓ yeah. And then there's like
the whole, the whole thing about supervisory billing through insurance. So like, you can also access money through insurance to pay your interns. it's like, which is also, that's why I think it's really ethical to pay your, your, ⁓ interns cause you are making a lot of money.
Taylor Gilbert (27:59)
Yeah.
Because,
yeah.
Faith Voss (28:13)
if you are using supervisory billing, think the way I understand it, the potential is there. anyways, so that's that. And I'm trying to convince one of my friends who's also a therapist to do it with me, but I don't know if that will go over.
Taylor Gilbert (28:17)
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like you guys could just
both do like, let's just both get one person. Like it doesn't need to be multiple people. It's just like, let's just start with one person. You interview them. You're like, OK, I think, you know, we're a good fit and let's move forward on this. I feel like just one person.
Faith Voss (28:31)
Just one person.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. And
I think it makes sense when you're getting your clinical hours and when you're trying to be a learn to be a therapist and you're learning specific types of modalities to do a split. I think that makes sense. And then once you become an LCSW like fly birdie, go do your thing because the split is for the liability. ⁓ like if you kind of make a mistake, I'm in trouble. My license is on the line. So I just feel like
Taylor Gilbert (28:58)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (29:09)
that makes more sense and you're providing a lot of training and all that. But I think ⁓ after that, I just would love to see people be able to do their own thing, you know? The other, yeah, so that's my like pipe dream. Who knows if it will happen. ⁓ The other thing that's been like kind of hard for me, well, not hard, I guess like, I don't know. I don't think it's a failure either, but I, in my private practice, I was trying to, you know, do like different revenue streams and stuff. And I was like,
Taylor Gilbert (29:18)
That's so cool.
Faith Voss (29:36)
I think I'm going to start an OCD group. So I'm going to start like a family OCD group. So people who have a child or, or a partner with OCD, you could come and talk about how that's affecting your life, you know, cause OCD impacts whole family. And I did all this networking and I went to all these hospitals and I put all this flyer and everything and it was like crickets. So no one signed up. I think I got like one or two inquiries, but no, I needed like at least like,
Taylor Gilbert (29:55)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (30:06)
four or five families to run the group. And so I think that I'm still, yeah, I did. It's hard.
Taylor Gilbert (30:10)
You know, I just want to say good job. Good job for doing that. You put yourself out there like it's hard to just it's it's hard
to know, you know, and it's hard to to accept that like, ⁓ no one no one signed up like, dang, you know, that kind of hurts a little bit.
Faith Voss (30:32)
Yeah, but I also am like, I do think there's a big need for that. And I've heard it from so many families. Like I wish there was a group that I could go to and I'm like, you know, and I heard that from a lot of different like hospitals and referral sources are like, this is amazing. But then when it comes down to it, like sometimes these things just don't pan out. And I don't really know why. I don't know if it's just the timing isn't right or like the marketing isn't right, but
Taylor Gilbert (30:40)
Totally.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (30:57)
I'm really glad I tried and I didn't lose any money on it. It was going to be an online group and I, the most it took was me making a flyer. So I'm like, and networking and networking was good anyways, cause I'm getting individual referrals from those places. So it's like hard because I'm like, man, I really love the idea of the group and I'd love to do it, but it's also, you know, not the right timing for that. So I'm still motivated to do it at some time, some point in the future, but yeah, that was a little bit of like a bummer on my end.
Taylor Gilbert (30:59)
No.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (31:27)
let me see, what else do I got? What else do I got cooking? ⁓ I've been trained in immigration assessments. like there's this big piece of me, Taylor, you know this, but like, love international social work. Like I'm like, I would love to keep doing this or in some capacity, but you know, I'm in the United States working in Colorado and I have a kid, so things look different, but immigration assessments, I feel like is a way for me to kind of still do international kind of kinds of work. So I've been trying to network with some.
immigration lawyers to do like a few pro bono immigration assessments. ⁓ And also there's, have you heard of CASA? Yeah. So I'm also trying to work with CASA to see if there's any, anybody who needs like an immigration assessment for their case. ⁓ So yeah, I'm like, I'm just like putting some feelers out there, you know, like I don't think I would just offer this to any lawyer if the lawyer is kind of like, I don't know.
Taylor Gilbert (31:59)
Mmm.
Mm-hmm.
So you're starting it, like you're moving forward.
Dude, nice.
It's not, yeah, you need a good working relationship because if it works out between both of you, they're gonna be hitting you up like, hey Faith, can you do this, can you do this? And you wanna make sure that you guys can work together.
Faith Voss (32:27)
Like, we're not vibin'. Mm-mm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can work together. So I'm, I'm considering that and just kind of like dipping my toes into it and it would be a few pro bono and then try to shift towards like, Hey, this is something that I offer as like a, service, you know? Um, yeah. And then my real pipe dreams, like my little secret dream in my heart that just sits there and I don't talk a lot about it is to move to New Zealand and work as a social worker there for two years.
Taylor Gilbert (32:51)
Mm-hmm.
Hahaha
Faith Voss (33:05)
But you know, ⁓ my husband would have to find an online job or a remote job and he's probably not gonna do that. So, but that's my little pipe dream. Or maybe he could take a sabbatical or something and I could just work and we could go, dude, it's gorgeous over there. It's beautiful. I've always wanted to go to New Zealand and I feel like the best. Yeah. I feel like the best way to experience a new place is to live there.
Taylor Gilbert (33:16)
What is it about New Zealand? Like what is it about? True. What have you? do you? I know. I remember we talked about. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Faith Voss (33:35)
And so
I feel like I love living abroad. loved working abroad. New Zealand is like the top of our list. Um, it's gorgeous. It's a really cool culture. Uh, Lord of the Rings. Hello. I'm like a super geek about Lord of the Rings. Oh my God. I'm totally going to go to Hobbiton. Okay. Well, so I, I don't feel judged. love Lord of the Rings. So I'm like trying to live in Hobbiton. You know what I mean?
Taylor Gilbert (33:49)
Are you? I'm not really... I'm not really into Lord of the Rings. It's okay. No judgment. No judgment.
Faith Voss (34:04)
⁓ no, but yeah, so I just, I just love it. I love everything I've learned about it. So it's definitely that'd be cool.
Taylor Gilbert (34:10)
What do you know about social
work in New Zealand?
Faith Voss (34:13)
I know that you can, your visa can be fast tracked. So they're in high demand there. So like you, you apply and then you're more likely to get residency there because you are meeting a demand, like a professional demand. So I think Norway is also a place that has that right now. ⁓ yeah. So you can like look around and see other, see countries that are essentially hiring us social workers or psychologists because they have such a demand.
Taylor Gilbert (34:27)
Mmm.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Faith Voss (34:43)
for
because New Zealand's far. It's far. Like, I don't know. You know, a lot of people want to move there, relocate there, but.
Taylor Gilbert (34:48)
That's true.
How
long's the, do you know how long the visa lasts?
Faith Voss (34:54)
I think it's as long as you're employed, right? Like your visa's probably, I mean, don't know. need to, don't take my word for it. I need to research it more, but I wouldn't think it would be connected with your employment status. So I would love to do that for just like two years, you know, just like two years, bring our little girl and we can just all, we could bring, you never mind, I'm talking too much. Anyways.
Taylor Gilbert (34:56)
Wow.
That sounds fun.
I just had an idea.
We need to find, I feel like every time we have like a cool idea, I'm like, both of us, we need to bring them on the podcast. We need to bring them on the podcast. But an American social worker who lives in New Zealand and who moved on this visa.
Faith Voss (35:27)
Yeah.
Anybody out there who knows a email us, we want to talk to you and then help me get in the country. No, but I think, yeah, it'd be sweet just for a little bit of time. And I'd love for my, my daughter to just be able to live in a different country too. And it'd be cool. So that's what I got going on. Anything else? I'm looking at my list. I don't think so. Um, Oh, I've also thought about obviously private practice coaching, but yeah, yeah, that's what I
Taylor Gilbert (35:39)
And he emailed me.
That would be really fun.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes, which we need to grow.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (36:06)
Hi listeners, this is Taylor. just had to, before this episode dropped, I had to record this little... ⁓
update because obviously you heard that I've been trying to find a para planning or an associate advisor role. Haven't had much success, but I've gotten some, you know, I've gotten some bites. today, yesterday we recorded this episode on April 9th. Today is April 10th and I got an email from the firm that's in Massachusetts. They emailed me offering me a part time, it's like nine to 15 hours a week, part time
pair of planning role. I'm going to be doing some just back end things, data entry. It's very flexible. I literally screamed with excitement when I got this email. I literally replied and said, like they said, you know, would you be interested? And I replied in all caps, yes, yes, yes. And then that was literally today. And they were like, can you talk today? I said, yes. And when we were talking,
I was just like, oh my gosh, and they said, we loved you, but you know, it just didn't work out, but when this came up, we thought of you wanted to offer it to you and so yeah guys, like.
I'm in finance! It's kind of wild. Social worker, social worker transition, pivoted into finance. I am super excited. So it's really nice. It's going to be nine to 15 hours a week. So super, super chill, very flexible. I'm still going to work my travel, like travel position or my travel shifts. I talked to them about how...
I'm like, kinda need to still work those, know, this isn't like a ton of money. And they're like, we totally get it, you know, that you need to work another job to sustain yourself because this isn't enough hours to, you know, pay the bills. So we totally get it. So yeah, it's really just gonna be like some behind the scenes stuff and I'm gonna be working independently, very flexible. Like I just need to get my work done.
So anyways, I start next Tuesday, ⁓ which is in like, what, four days. I was so excited. On the call, they were like, so any questions for us? I'm like, so are you interviewing anyone else? Or like, is this mine? You know, like where are we at? And they're like, it's yours if you want it. And I was like, yes. my gosh. So.
Anyways, just had to share that I'm so so so excited and I'm going to be learning a ton and I am yeah so anyways wanted to wanted to share that little update and back to the original back to the original scheduled programming scheduled episode.
Taylor Gilbert (39:08)
OK, well, social work to health updates. ⁓ Let's talk about it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally. I mean.
Faith Voss (39:12)
Let's talk about it because that's also a huge part of your career in becoming a little bit more of mine, which is interesting. So, okay.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (39:22)
Yeah,
it's like what social work 12 started in 2022 started as blog, me just documenting my journey and my husband's journey and paying off our debt. And now it's now it is what it is. And it's really exciting to just see the growth and oh, and the messages that we get the you guys seriously. Me and Faith literally live for these messages. you're if you when you message us like
Faith Voss (39:40)
you
It's true.
Taylor Gilbert (39:52)
you know, I love your perspective or I love this, these conversations like great. I don't know, just all the reviews that we've gotten from people and just when you email, ⁓ when you email me or post on, you know, social media or just kind of giving praise to the podcast, it like seriously means the world because on one hand, Faith and I, we
Faith Voss (40:09)
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (40:15)
We don't know. like, is this resonating? Like, no, we're just we're just here chatting away, throwing it out into the universe, into the void. And hopefully, hopefully it's landing. But I feel like at this point, like it's been what we started last year. So it's been a little over a year. We've gotten enough feedback that we know it is resonating. But we still love to see the see the written reviews and just, you know.
Faith Voss (40:21)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Seriously, whenever
you text me a screenshot or an email or something, it's so cool because again, we had no idea what it was going to be or how it was going to evolve. This is a topic that needs to be talked about. Let's just do it. Someone's got to do it. And it's been really encouraging and it's so fun. don't know. It's awesome. I know. Yeah, do it.
Taylor Gilbert (40:53)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Let's just do it. Yeah.
It's so fun. I'm like, can we do this full time? Yeah. I like, just pulled up the reviews on Apple podcast. Someone said,
so DM Pepper 1993. What up? What up, DM Pepper?
Faith Voss (41:15)
Hey, we see you!
Taylor Gilbert (41:23)
They said, love everything about this. This is totally a need and I'm really enjoying the validation and encouragement from this podcast. It's also very informative. love that. Love that. New fan, please keep this. Like, ⁓ you guys, it's the best. literally, every time, well, the Apple reviews, you know, they're on Apple, but.
Faith Voss (41:32)
That's what we want! We want it be informative! Ugh, so good.
Taylor Gilbert (41:46)
If you send me a DM, an email, post something on, I screenshot it and I put it in a little folder called Social Work to Wealth Hype.
Faith Voss (41:54)
huh, what's that folder called? Hype. Hey.
Taylor Gilbert (42:01)
so that we can
Faith Voss (42:01)
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (42:03)
just, I don't know, it just helps us with motivation. It's just, it's really, it's really nice. So anyways, thank you for listening. Thank you for supporting us. Thank you for just, yeah, being, being a part of this community, being, being, I mean, apparently we're talking about some taboo stuff and people are, people are not happy about, about what? People are happy and then people are not.
Faith Voss (42:06)
It does.
Thank you.
People are happy and then some people are salty
about this. They're salty about this.
Taylor Gilbert (42:29)
Yeah, so so
thanks for coming along and joining us in this in our rebellion. That's what I'm calling it. This is the Star Wars rebellion. Yes, yes.
Faith Voss (42:34)
Seriously, let's. So not in the Lord of the Rings, but into Star Wars. OK, girl.
Come on. Oh, this is a rebellion. But it's grown. This, yeah, social work to wealth has totally evolved and grown and become like this. I feel like it's a movement. I feel like it's a movement. It feels really cool. It feels like exactly what we had kind of maybe hoped would happen, but weren't sure and just started the conversation. So how have you seen it grown? How have you seen it grow? That's what I was trying to ask.
Taylor Gilbert (42:47)
This is the rebellion. ⁓ So, yeah, thanks for the it has.
It's a movement.
Yeah.
How
about, how have I seen it grow? I think, I mean, it's really hard to... It's hard to quant, it's hard to quantify it, but the only way I've, the only way I'm able to...
Faith Voss (43:16)
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (43:27)
like track the growth is quantifying it because I, you know, I don't know. I don't know how, how widespread this is, but like we have a lot. People are really high download numbers, which I went last month. had like 6,000 6,200 downloads, which.
Faith Voss (43:30)
Yeah.
We hit
a little milestone for us, is like, there's, what is that? It's your rankings on.
Taylor Gilbert (43:50)
Yeah,
so we yeah, that's I forgot about that. We we ranked on Apple podcasts. We were number was it three or four? No, six. I think it was six. I think, yeah, we ranked number six in all of podcasts in career on Apple. That's nuts. Like, like so.
Faith Voss (43:53)
That was wild. Yeah.
Six. ⁓ was it six? Did we hit six? Number six.
Which is insane.
Taylor Gilbert (44:17)
Yeah, it's like, how have I seen it grown? There's that where it's like, whoa, we're like, I literally went onto the Apple Podcast career page and there we were, you know, it's like, holy crap, this is, ⁓ my gosh.
Faith Voss (44:18)
No?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Which again,
it tells you that social workers really care about this topic, right? Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (44:35)
Totally totally. So that's super exciting.
I feel like I'm getting more I don't know I'm just seeing the podcast kind of pop up like here and there more often You know, like even just yesterday two people on LinkedIn posted about our podcast
Faith Voss (44:52)
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (44:53)
And I never even, you know, it's like, don't know everyone who listens to the podcast, but I was like, my gosh, this is so awesome. Or when I get, you know, I feel like I'm getting more messages about this is amazing. Like, thank you so much. And so it's so cool and so cool.
Faith Voss (45:07)
It's really encouraging because it's, it's so encouraging
and it's so cool because this is a lot of work and it does feel worth it when you, you know, when you're getting that kind of, I mean, you see the impact.
Taylor Gilbert (45:18)
When you see the impact, mean, everyone who's listening to this podcast
knows we're social workers. We want to see people improve. We want to see people, you know, kind of get the resources they need and feel empowered. And like, that's why we're doing the work that we do. Right. And so this is this is social work. Like what Faith and I do is our is our macro version of social work. And so it's just like so fulfilling to see all of that. Yeah. ⁓
Faith Voss (45:23)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
It is.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (45:45)
What else? Last year we started doing panels. So that's super, that's been super interesting and fun. think I really, I just like bringing people together. I think I noticed. And so this has been another way to be able to do that. And what last year we did tech social tech social work panel. That was super interesting. Last month we did a macro, not macro, ⁓ international social work panel and
Faith Voss (46:05)
Super good.
Taylor Gilbert (46:14)
Yeah, I'm hoping to do one per quarter because I think these, it's just really interesting to kind of bring people together and like, you know, kind of have these conversations. Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (46:23)
And again, like super surprised by the turnout with that because
I remember when we were doing the first panel, we're like, okay, you're like, people are still buying tickets. Like, my gosh. And like we, when we're live, yeah, when we were alive, you're like, people are still buying tickets. Like, and then at one point it was just like, there was a camera that came on and a whole classroom, it's like turned and there was like a whole classroom. And I was like,
Taylor Gilbert (46:35)
like when we're on the call, saying? Yeah.
Faith Voss (46:49)
Oh my, like this is, this is really cool. Again, like I think our goal was to have, I don't know. I think we're like, if 30 people show up, that would be amazing. And like, what was it? 100 people, which is.
Taylor Gilbert (46:58)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 100 people. It was like 100 people bought tickets to
that panel. Yeah. And then the International Social Work one, I think it was like 50. Yeah, it's really cool to just see.
just to see the response and that people are excited about this. Like that's exactly what we want, you know? So, yeah, I'm going to try to do panels every once every quarter. So, you know, LinkedIn, I share pretty pretty when when it's time, I share on LinkedIn. But definitely if email list is where you can get it direct to your inbox. So if you're not on the email list, that's where we'll be sharing all the updates and things. Link will be in the show notes.
Faith Voss (47:18)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (47:44)
What have you enjoyed about being a part of the podcast and in all in this movement?
Faith Voss (47:48)
you
Honestly, feel again, like we were like, let's just start, let's just start, let's just start talking about this topic. Let's just start, you know, bringing a voice to this issue. And then the amount of people that we've actually been able to interview and talk with has been honestly insane to me. I mean, I just, I didn't expect us to like at first we're like, can we get people on this podcast? Like, are we going to have people wanting to be interviewed and come on? And then like, it just was resonating and
everybody's been so generous and so sweet and so open. I think the authenticity and the vulnerability about just like this really taboo topic, which is like money and social work, has been so cool and has inspired me to be more bold in my career, I think too. Like there's, I definitely hold back. definitely get anxious and nervous about what I should do and how I should navigate it. And so just hearing the variety of ways.
Taylor Gilbert (48:24)
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (48:47)
that social workers have advanced their career. And I think the most surprising thing has been that they've been very successful in bringing in wealth, like I think are making money. And I think there's a narrative of like social workers don't make money, but yet we're learning about all these really creative, innovative social workers who are totally like doing amazing, doing amazing. And I think that's really encouraging. And one thing specifically on a more personal note,
Taylor Gilbert (48:57)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Faith Voss (49:17)
that I found really, really encouraging was actually listening to Liz's episode because she started out very similar to how I started out with opening a private practice right after grad school. And there's a lot of taboo about that. And I've always felt a little like, ugh, like, ugh, like I started a private practice pretty soon right after grad school and have had these conflicting feelings about it. And just to know that there's somebody else out in the world.
Taylor Gilbert (49:36)
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (49:43)
who did that ethically, I did it ethically, even though it's not common in, you know, in Wisconsin, you're able to do that where she lives. You're able to do that if you're under supervision and, ⁓ you know, it felt really validating for me. and really encouraging to know that I'm just like, not the only one who's done that. And it can be a really great way to start your career. So, yeah, that's one thing that.
Taylor Gilbert (49:44)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (50:12)
resonated with me recently.
Taylor Gilbert (50:13)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
⁓ that's cool. I love that.
Let me think.
Faith Voss (50:19)
What have you though, like same question
to you, like what's been inspiring to you about the podcast and like.
Taylor Gilbert (50:25)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think, you know, I feel like...
We talk about this a lot. just like, I didn't learn this in grad school. wow. And it's just really kind of just opening up my it's just expanding my mind about all the possibilities of that we can do with this degree. You know, and it's it makes me excited, I think, about social work and it makes me love it even more just to know that we're so we're so like.
dynamic, you know? And that was one of the reasons why I went into social work because I didn't really know exactly what I wanted to do, but I was like, okay, what I'm reading, it seems like I could do a lot of sort of things and I don't know exactly, I don't want to pigeonhole myself. so I think there are some people who are...
Faith Voss (51:06)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (51:20)
You know, in the social work world, online space, I think there can be lot of negativity about social work and all of that. But I feel like it makes me excited and still like a career path that I would recommend. ⁓
I know there are some challenges with the pay. There's such a broad, there's such a range of, there's a huge range of pay that we've seen. And I think that's also been interesting to me too, because I think it has challenged my narrative. mean, when we started the podcast, think I was...
Faith Voss (51:45)
Yeah.
yeah. uh-huh.
Taylor Gilbert (51:58)
I was making $100,000 and so I knew that there were social workers, know, me and people that I was working with that were making good money, but I think it's been kind of like encouraging to see, there are, this is possible. Obviously there's lots of variables that go into it and maybe where you live, you know, obviously there's a lot, but.
Faith Voss (52:23)
Yeah, obviously.
Taylor Gilbert (52:25)
it's been encouraging to kind of like hear from people and, you know, see people apply or see people fill out the salary form and, and, um, so that's been cool. And I also think one thing that I didn't realize or I didn't expect was we get to talk to some freaking cool people just because we have a podcast. Like,
Faith Voss (52:33)
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know. I know.
Taylor Gilbert (52:51)
I didn't, I did not expect the like,
Faith Voss (52:51)
Yeah. Mm-mm.
Taylor Gilbert (52:55)
I don't want to call it, I don't, I feel like prestige is the right word, but like the, the credibility. Okay. I feel like for some reason having a podcast gives, gives us like some credit, like gives me you credibility that like,
Faith Voss (53:02)
The credibility.
We didn't expect.
Taylor Gilbert (53:13)
We
didn't expect and like, did I really earn this? mean, like any I don't know. Like we can all start a podcast and people who are coming on, they don't know who's listening or whatever. People don't really care. But I think I didn't realize how powerful podcasting was and just like the perception of podcasting, you know, because like if I message someone and I'm like, hey, you want to come on the podcast or like, my. ⁓ Yeah. Like they're stoked, you know, and I'm like.
Faith Voss (53:17)
I know.
Yeah.
this
They're, yeah, right.
Taylor Gilbert (53:43)
Sweet. Like we got to talk
Faith Voss (53:44)
Sweet.
Taylor Gilbert (53:45)
to, for example, I mean, all the people that we've talked to, like shout out to all our guests because y'all are amazing. Just like we got to talk to Dr. Reamer. You like we got to you guys like Dr. Reamer, he's the one that did the AI podcast, the AI episode with us, episode 28. Like he.
Faith Voss (53:51)
Taylor, what are you about to say? No, I'm just kidding. Reamer, I know, I know.
Taylor Gilbert (54:09)
essentially wrote the code of ethics, like the, the guy, like the code of ethics, and I'm just like, hey, you wanna come on our podcast? And he's like, yeah. He was so cool.
Faith Voss (54:13)
Thanks
And he was the coolest, chillest,
humble guy. I just thought he, like he knew his shit too. Like he just was, he was good. Anyways, I know. Can he just be a friend of the pod or maybe next year.
Taylor Gilbert (54:26)
He, I really want him to come on again to like just talk about any, just like ethics in general. I know, maybe next year we can be like, hey, you come on again?
So anyways, I think that's one thing where I was like, wow, this gives us some sort of credibility that like, I don't feel like I really earned because.
You know, podcasting, really anyone can start a podcast. It takes anyone can start a podcast. I don't want to. But also it is a lot of work to kind of maintain it. And on the marketing, like there's so much that goes into it. So I don't want to downplay that and like the work that we put into this. like ⁓ so anyways.
Faith Voss (54:50)
Yeah.
That's a surprising thing,
a surprising piece that you just don't realize when you start something like that, that would have that effect. Totally, totally. ⁓ I think another really encouraging thing is finding out that, you know, one of our goals is to obviously increase income for social workers, bring awareness to this issue and to hear from grad students and to hear from new social workers being like, you've revived my
Taylor Gilbert (55:10)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So... Yeah.
My- yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Faith Voss (55:31)
my like excitement for the field. You're like, good. Don't leave. Like, don't leave.
Like, please. ⁓ so it's been cool to, I don't know, just say the quiet part out loud a little bit and to hear that people are resonating with that. cause again, like you said, we just put these episodes out and we're like, I hope that's, I hope people find this helpful. I don't know. So that's been really, really cool too. ⁓ we have gotten some salty comments though. We have.
Taylor Gilbert (55:51)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
have gotten some salty comments. Yeah, one thing
I know, we're gonna do an episode about this, but essentially someone told me last two weeks ago that ⁓ building wealth as a social worker is against the code of ethics. So there's that. So stay tuned for our episode of diving into whether it's ethical for social workers to build wealth. Yeah, so.
Faith Voss (56:02)
Yeah.
Stay tuned.
Mm-hmm. We got to talk
about that for sure. We got to talk about that. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (56:25)
We got to talk about that. Yeah, I've
getting lots of lot more negative. think that's the other thing, too, is like as you know, my social media has grown, the podcasts grow. ⁓ I didn't expect, but I need to I need to expect just.
Faith Voss (56:33)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (56:41)
negativity, you know, we got a two-star rating on Apple Podcasts. I've been getting negative comments ⁓ about, know, I shouldn't have chose this profession if this is what I care about. ⁓ so something that, yeah, as things grow, ⁓ this isn't for everyone and that's okay, but something that I need to expect.
Faith Voss (56:43)
Yeah.
you
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, and we, when we started, yeah,
I need to expect them. When we started, even said like, we might ruffle some feathers. Like we want change. There's it's going to be uncomfortable. Like, and I think you're doing a great job putting yourself out there. Like I am not willing to do that. Like I'm like social media. Like I just get a little scared of that whole thing and I kind of get, I, yeah, I'm not, I'm not on it. And I think.
Taylor Gilbert (57:14)
Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (57:28)
for you to put yourself out there, like you're putting yourself out there to criticism too. And that's also part of this, that is hard and unexpected, but I think that what we're doing is still very, important. And at this point, we're going to keep doing it. ⁓
Taylor Gilbert (57:33)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
We're going to keep doing it because I feel like we've
gotten enough positivity where it's like, okay, we're not, we're not, we're not just like, we're not just making this up in our heads that we think that this is a problem or that we need to talk about this. Like we're getting validation and feedback that like, yes, we love this conversation you guys. So we're not going anywhere. ⁓
Faith Voss (57:46)
Yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm. We're not... We're
sticking around. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (58:08)
I would say last thing that's super exciting that Faith and I have
in the works, the continuing education? Yes. So last month, March, we submitted to the National Board of Certified Counselors, NBCC, and the ASWB Association of Social Work Boards.
Faith Voss (58:14)
my gosh! Dude, I forgot about this already! Yes!
Taylor Gilbert (58:32)
We submitted for the podcast to be reviewed and so we can offer CEs for people listening to the podcast. So, super exciting.
Faith Voss (58:39)
Mm-hmm.
So like the idea is you look
into the podcast, specific a CE, like a specific CE podcast, and you can get CE credit for your license. That application was hard and rough. took us a lot of time and a fine. Yeah. Yeah. Four months. That was like a really long, hard project, but like, Oh my gosh, I forgot about, how did I forget about that? I don't know. Maybe I just did it and like put it on my head. I'm like, okay, we're done with that finally, but.
Taylor Gilbert (58:52)
You can get a credit for listening to the podcast.
intense for months.
Faith Voss (59:14)
⁓ that is something so cool that we're starting. So I'm really excited for that too.
Taylor Gilbert (59:17)
I know, know, yeah,
so you will have to pay. I mean, you're not gonna have to pay to listen to the podcast. can listen, and it's not gonna be every episode. We have to be very intentional about the topics we talk about and the length and whatever, but you can listen. Anyone can always listen to the episodes for free, but if you want the CE, you will have to pay because this ain't free, because sorry, sorry.
Faith Voss (59:25)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, for sure.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Well, yeah, the back end's not. Yeah, that's, yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (59:43)
The backend stuff, like we have
a lot that goes into producing the podcasts, maintaining it, maintaining, you know, like for the CE stuff, we're gonna have to create tests and evaluations, like there's a lot of stuff. So anyways, we're gonna keep it affordable. But yeah, so stay tuned. It's accessible.
Faith Voss (59:48)
you
Right.
Of course, of course. And, and it's so accessible, right? Like if
I can get a CE sitting in my car, going to work, listening to a podcast, I'm doing that. I'm doing that. Like I'm doing that. Yeah. So I'm super excited. I'm super excited. Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (1:00:10)
100%. 100%, yeah.
Yeah, ⁓
I think other thing I would say is, let me pause. Should we skip the money moment? Because I feel like it's getting long.
Faith Voss (1:00:26)
Yeah, I know. We also
could have, we could also have her just like cut some stuff out. Like if she, we needed to do. You do? Do you think it's okay that we talk about, I was like, now I'm in my head. Do you think it's okay that we talked about like the numbers and stuff for like who came to the events and shit? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I don't want to be like, had a hundred people come to our events, but like, I think that that's a way to tell people it's working.
Taylor Gilbert (1:00:32)
I like it. I like everything that we talked about.
So, yeah.
No, I feel like I feel like we're just like,
I feel like we're just like, my gosh, like 100 people came. We had no idea. know, I feel like you and I are just I'm not going to not be humble and say we are humble. You know what I mean? Like we're not like gloating about it. It doesn't feel like that. Should we skip the money moment? It's getting long.
Faith Voss (1:00:55)
Okay.
Okay. We're just chatting.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cause I'm like, that could be off, buddy.
Yeah, let's skip it. Let's skip it. Cause mine's like literally about how I found cheap clothes for my kid. That's it. It's stupid. It's a dumb money moment anyways.
Taylor Gilbert (1:01:12)
Okay. Okay.
Or we could
we say one, two, or we could say, what's the money moment? Keep it at two sentences.
Faith Voss (1:01:21)
Mine's super short.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let's do it.
Taylor Gilbert (1:01:25)
Okay.
I feel like last thing I want to say about Social Work to Wealth is I started accidentally a community that I didn't expect for like job searching and stuff because I like had all these job titles for social workers. know, if you've seen stuff I've been sharing on Instagram and TikTok, it's like...
Faith Voss (1:01:32)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Taylor Gilbert (1:01:48)
we can do so many jobs like we've talked about and not all of them are titled social workers. So I created these job titles and I was like, well, how am gonna distribute this?
So I was like, I'm just gonna put in a community and people can pay and come in and out and whatever. so that's a thing. So if you wanna check that out, I'll put that in the show notes. I'm in there once a month, resume, job search, office hours, all the things. I won't get into the details, but that's been cool. And people have said it's been helpful. But yeah, that's.
Faith Voss (1:02:06)
So cool.
you
Taylor Gilbert (1:02:22)
That's the updates we got and we will end with our money moment. So my money moment, we're going to keep it short because we did not plan to talk this long. We can we can get we never do. My money moment is. I love I love credit card points like I since we've paid off all of our debt, I mean, we still have student loans, but that's since we paid off our credit cards and like I feel.
Faith Voss (1:02:30)
We never, we never do, but here we are.
Taylor Gilbert (1:02:52)
I feel like I can manage credit cards and I know how to use them for my benefit. I am someone who loves getting sign-on bonuses. I will open up a card. My credit score is like, I don't know, 770 or something.
Faith Voss (1:03:06)
Hmm.
Taylor Gilbert (1:03:15)
And so I do get, I am able to get the cards that I want and I, you know, do the signup bonus, get my, so I just, I just did one capital one venture. I got a hundred thousand points. but the thing, the thing that I think people need to remember about credit card points is I think people try, people spend on their credit cards cause they're like, I want to get the points. I want to get the points, but if you're not paying it off every month,
Faith Voss (1:03:23)
Nice.
Taylor Gilbert (1:03:40)
there's interest that is accruing and it's not worth it. The points aren't worth it. If you're paying interest on your card, the points are not worth it. that's like a key to using the points is paying an offer every month. anyways, I have 100,000 points, which...
Faith Voss (1:04:02)
Nice.
Taylor Gilbert (1:04:03)
is
about $1,200 in. I'm gonna use it for travel. I usually it for travel. So I have $1,200 that I'm excited to use. New Zealand. So anyways, that's, I'm excited about that. yeah. Okay, what's your money money me?
Faith Voss (1:04:08)
Girls trip. Where are we going? Which, where are we going? What girls are we taking? New Zealand?
That's awesome. That's a good tip.
My money moment is, it's kind of again, like, you know, being a new parent, I'm always trying to find a way to save money, like constantly. ⁓ And there's this store called Once Upon a Child. I don't know if anybody has heard of it, but essentially you get, it's all used clothing, it's all used toys, it's all used like, ⁓
Taylor Gilbert (1:04:47)
Hmm.
Faith Voss (1:04:49)
strollers and bassinets and everything and it's super organized and their shoes there's everything you could ever think of there and you can also sell your stuff there so like when you have a kid you have all this you they grow out of everything so fast so you're like this is pretty much brand new they wore it twice now they don't fit into it and so you can sell your stuff there and get store credit or get money so we just did that and we also I've been wanting a bike buggy like essentially to
Taylor Gilbert (1:04:58)
that's cool.
Faith Voss (1:05:16)
put my daughter in a little bike buggy behind me and I can ride my bike and she can like ride in it. And they're like 400 bucks on, you know, at REI or other sports stores. And I got one there for like a hundred bucks and I just wasn't even expecting it. And so I'm like, this is so cool. Cause you know, ⁓ I'm on a budget. So if you have a kid and you're trying to money on clothes or whatever, you can sell and buy for like half the price, like four bucks for like a sleeper or Patagonia, like little zip up and zip up fleece.
Taylor Gilbert (1:05:26)
That's awesome.
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Faith Voss (1:05:45)
was like $15 versus 70. So I mean, like really good deals on things. So yeah. Oh my God. I'll just send you a picture. But okay.
Taylor Gilbert (1:05:48)
That's huge. my gosh. I can't wait to see. I can't wait to see her in a little buggy. my God. ⁓ All right, y'all.
Thanks so much for tuning in. We're excited for. Yeah, just for for everything. We're excited. We're excited. We're.
Faith Voss (1:06:01)
Mm-hmm.
We're excited.
Taylor Gilbert (1:06:10)
We kind of hope to maybe do one of these, I don't know, every four months, maybe just a couple times a year, me and Faith just popping on and giving a little update of what's going on. anyways, we appreciate you for listening and thanks so much and we'll talk to you in two weeks.
Faith Voss (1:06:16)
Yeah.
where we're at.